Monday, 30 June 2025

JACK POSOBIEC and KENNY CODY: Trump delays Iran decision, chooses strength through diplomacy over neocon panic


"I think it’s pretty obvious, we’ve always had a foreign policy in MAGA and Trump has always held it, of having peace through strength and prioritizing diplomacy and having negotiations before we actually make a militaristic strike."

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Human Events Daily host Jack Posobiec spoke with commentator Kenny Cody on Thursday's edition of the program about President Donald Trump's decision to delay any immediate action in response to the Iran-Israel conflict kicked off by Israel's preemptive strike on specific targets.

The delay, which Trump said was aimed at opening a window for negotiations, has some of the MAGA base at each other's throats, with more hawkish supporters calling for war.

"This breaking news just takes everyone by surprise that President Trump has made this decision to call this delay to allow negotiations, discussion, perhaps even a White House meeting that Mark Levine said should not happen," Posobiec began. "Mark Levine said that President Trump shouldn’t have any more meetings. Mark Levine decided that it was his call that President Trump should not have any more meetings as opposed to the actual commander in chief we all voted for."



Asked to analyze the situation, Cody said, "I think it’s pretty obvious, we’ve always had a foreign policy in MAGA, and President Trump has always held it, of having peace through strength and prioritizing diplomacy, prioritizing having negotiations before we actually make a militaristic strike ... People are not used to that. I don’t know when the Panicans are going to learn that this is a process."

He continued: "Same thing with tariffs, as soon as we have any kind of negotiations, everyone panics and says, well we’re going to go into a nuclear wars, we're going to go into a war and we want it. We want war. But, you have to give President Trump time. Foreign relations and America First foreign policy is not about just coming to the table and negotiating from the outstart. We are now having a sort of rhetoric that is aggressive, that has strength to it, is a strong sort of rhetoric to bring our end to the table."

Cody emphasized the broader strategic vision: "We’re going to have a conversation that is going to be best not only for America but for the rest of the world. That’s what Mark Levine and others, neocons, Lindsey Graham," people who want regime change wars and foreign policy want us to bomb Iran, "want us to send our men and women in the military over there to fight on the behalf of other countries. That’s not what America wants, that’s not what MAGA wants."

"We want Iran to come to the table, come to the White House, meet with Trump and meet with the Security Council to make sure that the most efficient America First foreign policy is going to happen and that is not through nuclear war or World War III. It’s not the neocon policy that Mark Levine and others want."

Later in the program, Posobiec recapped developments on the diplomatic front: "Trump saying, I’m going to take the meeting, I have strength on my side. Signaling that the US may continue negotiating. We know the NATO meeting is coming next week, that the EU foreign ministers are going to be meeting Iranian diplomats and potentially foreign ministers in Geneva next week. Whitkoff also speaking directly with President Trump’s special envoy, meeting directly with the foreign minister of Iran, and the White House also saying that Iran could come to Washington, DC."

"I mean, Kenny, could you imagine any other president actually sitting down and meeting with Iranian officials at the White House?"

"Absolutely not," Cody responded. "Trump has his finger on the button. Most presidents would just press it and say, ‘This is the decision we’re making, we’re going to bomb Iran and end negotiations, we’re not going to have people come to the table,’ but President Trump is different."

Cody explained, "He knows the threat and amount of firepower the U.S. has at its access. We can help Iran, we can bomb them, we can make Iran all glass if we wanted to, but that’s not what President Trump wants to do. He knows what risk there is on embassies and American bases. He knows that if we struck now, we’d be stuck in Iran for a long time. Our men and women would be put in harm's way by the Iranian military and by China, and by so many countries that back Iran."

"So he had his finger on the button to bring people to the table as well, and that’s what his foreign policy has been over the past 10 years—to use that strength and negotiating power. To know the cards are in our favor, to know that we have the power and Iran doesn’t. We are not a third world country, Iran is a third world country."

"If we look at these negotiations, we know that we have the power, we know that we control the conversation. No other country in the world controls the narrative, the conversation, what strikes there should be, who should be negotiating, who should come to the table. The United States has that. America has that, and that’s what President Trump’s main focus is."

"I trust that regardless of what happens over the next two weeks that President Trump is going to make the right move, and this shows that hesitation—knowing that if we can negotiate our way into bringing Iran to the table and denuclearizing Iran, that we need to take the opportunity."

Earlier on Thursday, White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt reiterated that President Trump is giving diplomacy a chance. "If there's a chance for diplomacy, he's not afraid to grab it."



Leavitt stressed, "Nobody should be surprised by the President's position that Iran absolutely cannot obtain a nuclear weapon. He has been unequivocally clear about this for decades, not just as president, not just as a presidential candidate, but also as a private citizen."

She added: "In 2011 President Trump said, 'America's primary goal with Iran must be to destroy its nuclear ambitions. We cannot allow this radical regime to acquire a nuclear weapon that they will either use or hand off to terrorists.'"

Leavitt also revealed that Trump had given Iran a 60-day warning, but "on day 61 Israel took action against Iran."

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