“They care about whether Social Security will be enough. I can’t tell you enough from how we poll… how many times we’ll hear in a polling session that Elon Musk is going to take my Social Security.”
Posobiec started the conversation by pointing to the contrast between mainstream media claims and real-world moments that reveal Trump’s popularity. “How the media runs these fake push polls to generate these narratives and false perceptions of reality. I love it because then Saturday rolls around and here’s Trump and Elon and they’re walking into the UFC, and everybody's cheering and on their feet for them and Mel Gibson’s saluting from the front row and you’re like, wait a minute, the people still like the guy. This isn’t a situation where there’s this massive outcry against Trump the way that the media would have you believe.”
Posobiec emphasized the need to cut through media spin, saying: “That being said, Rich, we do need to understand and tell the truth about what’s going on. And we know, of course, that President Trump, when it comes down to it, has been making some very big changes and talking about even bigger changes. We know this has spooked the market… what are you seeing in those numbers when it comes down to it?”
Baris responded by framing the economy’s current situation as the result of decades of mismanagement. “It’s funny to me, Jack, the period of—let's call it globalization—when they changed the ecnomony from a goods-producing economy to a primarily service sector-reliant, market-based [economy]—and I mean stock market-obsessed based economy—they’ve collapsed it no less than two times in order to change the economy into a cheap goods, no manufacturing, no living wage economy.”
He added that a reversal of that model—what voters are now demanding—would inevitably cause some short-term discomfort. “It was going to take disruption to be able to change it back, which is the agenda that people did vote for.”
Baris drew comparisons to past Republican leadership: “What I really see is a similar situation to what happened with Reagan when he was elected in the 1980 election... he was hammered all the way ’til ’83 when the economy started to turn around. He needed to implement a little bit of pain" in order to "get the country back in the right direction.”
Both agreed that much of the current fear isn’t actually based on hard numbers—it’s media-driven “Most of the concern right now is not being driven by reality of higher prices,” Baris said, “it’s being driven by the perception that there will be higher prices, and its being driven by a certain group's perception. It is not a bad thing to be the party of younger, less white people... the growing demographics of this country.”
Baris stressed how older voters are particularly vulnerable to scare tactics, especially around Social Security. “They care about whether or not Social Security will be enough. I can’t tell you enough from how we poll… how many times we’ll hear in a polling session, Elon Musk is going to take my Social Security.”
Posobiec jumped in to connect that directly to fake meggaging Democrat, all amplified by media who take their talking points from the part. “So much of that comes from what you hear Democrats saying and broadcast and cable media just regurgitate it. Elon has never said anything about that… Trump is against it, but they know that’s the button to press for those voters… they will just lie.”
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