A re-surfaced exchange between “The Five” hosts Jesse Watters and Jessica Tarlov is making the rounds. In the segment, the two hosts sparred over the merits of former President Donald Trump’s recent race-based criticisms of Vice President Kamala Harris.

When the hourlong show turned to a discussion about whether Harris is emphasizing her Black heritage to advance her nascent campaign for president, Tarlov took exception, criticizing Trump for focusing on an issue that may come across as tone-deaf to the 41 million Americans who claim biracial heritage. “There is something crucial that Republicans keep doing that is a major turnoff to the black community, and that’s insulting Kamala Harris. You don’t take someone so meaningful to that community and say she’s a diversity hire,” she told her four colleagues.

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Watters was quick to reply, humorously asking, “Can I speak for the black community for a second?” and joking that he is one percent Black. “No!” Tarlov shot back in a clip noted by the American Tribune. Continuing on, the Fox host noted that the network has a Black community correspondent who has conducted multiple man-on-the-street interviews and found little support for Harris. “We have Johnny go out and speak to the black community two times a week, and they do not support Kamala Harris. Speaking very broadly there,” he rebutted. Tarlov responded that Republicans are doing a disservice to themselves when referring to the vice president as a “diversity hire,” a warning that U.S. House Republicans have also given their colleagues as they urged lawmakers to focus on her track record rather than her race.

“If you have one of the highest achieving black women in the country who’s now made it to the vice presidency, and Republicans and people who talk about her on-air say she’s a diversity hire, she only got where she was going because she slept with Willie Brown,” she responded. Watters and fellow host Greg Gutfeld both cut in. “She did!? I didn’t know that!” Watters simultaneously asked, “She slept with Willie Brown!?” Tarlov responded, “Is that not true?” Watters then followed up, “I didn’t know that. Is that how she got ahead in politics?” Tarlov maintained, “No, of course not!” “I love it when people accuse us of spreading rumors by actually citing rumors,” Gutfeld said, wrapping up the conversation.

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Opposition researchers have been brushing up on Harris’s personal relationship with Brown, the former speaker for the California state legislature and San Francisco mayor whom she dated in the 1990s. At the time, Brown was 60 and Harris was 29, and he has since taken credit for boosting her career in state Democratic politics, citing her appointment to a state commission she relied on to win her first election for district attorney. Aside from President Trump’s claim that Harris only recently “became Black,” some conservatives are raising questions about the pair’s relationship and whether she dated Brown despite the chasmic age difference to gain a foothold in elected office.

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